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Feedback Wanted - Moving away from the term "Appaloosa"
  • AmmitAmmit
    When this game was created 20 years ago appaloosa was the most commonly used term to talk about horses with the LP gene. That's why "Appaloosa Project" whose goal was genetic research into LP, used it in their name. It's why PATN1 is still called Appaloosa Pattern-1 by UC Davis, and why so many scientific papers use the term.

    As the world is becoming less US centric, the genetic discourse is moving away from using appaloosa as a color term and instead moving towards LP Spotted. It is time to start doing the same with the game.

    I have two options for how to update the color naming system.

    1) Name Swap
    "Appaloosa" in the name becomes "LP Spotted". "Bay Appaloosa" becomes "Bay LP Spotted". This is the cleanest, most straight forward way to do this and I think will cause the least amount of confusion.

    Note I will not be using Leopard Spotted because "leopard" is it's own pattern name and that will cause confusion.

    2) Variant Names
    We use names based on a horses LP and PATN1 status. Note this is likely to cause mislabels as the game can see the genetic code only but not what the actual image looks like. I think this will be more confusing in the long run for people but it is something that is possible to do.

    LP/any -/- Bay Varnish or Bay Snowflake (non varnishing solid LP horses would also be called varnish)
    LP/- PATN1/- Bay Blanket
    LP/LP PATN1/- Bay Snowcap
    LP/- PATN1/PATN1 Bay Leopard
    LP/LP PATN1/PATN1 Bay Few Spot


    Please let me know do you prefer option one or two.

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  • SeaswellSeaswell
    I kinda like the variant names.

    Though I do wonder about the bay snowflake when we have a snowflake gene.

    I'd be comfortable with both options.
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  • AmmitAmmit
    Though I do wonder about the bay snowflake when we have a snowflake gene.



    Varnish horses would be called snowflake when they are homozygous for the snowflake gene.
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  • kintara
    I vote 1) Name Swap

    Lp Spotted makes the most sense to me
  • FollysFantasiesFollysFantasies
    I also like option 1, the simple name swap, best.
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  • Duven
    yep, I like to keep it simple. Option 1 makes the most sense to me.
  • HighstormFarmHighstormFarm
    Option 1 seems the most straight forward
  • Sanadi
    I like option 1 better also, less room for errors ^_^
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  • silverborn
    I personally like the longer name with patterns included
    However, I also prefer Lp-spotted to "appaloosa".
  • MariboMaribo
    I prefer the variant names over Lp Spotted.
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  • AmmitAmmit
    Thanks everyone for the feedback. I am going to make an attempt to implement the name variations with the STRONG warning that I may need to swap it to LP Spotted. It is possible using those names just won't work very well and will cause all sorts of confusion.
    Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


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  • AmmitAmmit
    Some examples of what I am seeing with testing:
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    Silver Black Blanket

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    Buckskin Leopard

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    Brown Varnish -Mislableled

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    White Spotted Chocolate Palomino Dun Blanket -Mislabeled

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    Bay Varnish

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    Liver Red Dun Blanket -Mislabeled

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    Black Varnish

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    Brown Varnish -Mislabeled

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    Bay Leopard -Mislabeled

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    Amber Champagne Fewspot -Mislabeled

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    Bay Snowcap -Mislabeled

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    Bay Splash Snowflake Varnish


    This is not looking super promising. There is far more mislabeled names than I am comfortable with. The reason I did not do them originally is because of the weak correlation between PATN1 and blanket size in the game. I will give it another round tomorrow.
    Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.

    I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )


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