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- BellaVoce June 2019
- Cheers June 2019
- kintara June 2019
- ObsidianKitsune June 2019
- RoseFlute June 2019
Which colors can have DP?
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I’m a bit stumped on the whole DP thing...I know that for chestnuts, if it comes out liver it either has 2sty/1DP, or 1sty/2DP (and Black liver is 2/2). But I’m not sure about bay and brown. Can brown horses have a DP gene? Is it the same as liver, where they just look gradually darker until they’re black? What about bay? And did I hear correctly that all Cherry Drops are either het or hom DP? I’m still not great at identifying genes, but I have these two ladies and was curious if DP is the reason they ended up so dark when they don’t seem like they should be, based on the visible genes they have.

RM TypicalTammy
RM CleverGirl -
Wild bay with DP goes a bright red colour, so your one above is simply a sooty wild bay. The second I don't think has DP either, a brown with sooty. But DP does affect bays and browns, just harder to pick than the chestnuts!
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DP works by darkening the red hairs on a horse. This means that black/grullo horses won't have much change to them, if any. Bays can have dp, but depending on the bay gene depends on how the horses look. Usually for normal bay and I think brown, the belly gets a darker/richer mahogany colour. For wild bay, they become brighter, kind of like ketchup. Neither of those horses have dp.
All of the DP RS are these:
Hom dp: Freaky Friday (hom sooty, hom frame) and Cherry Drop (no sooty, wild bay)
Het dp: Rhythm of Four (buckskin), Kings Ransom (Champagne), Dark Chocolate (Chocolate Palomino)Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
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This is a link to a discussion about dp in wild bays:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/29821/dp-in-wild-bays-project#Item_41
and a link to examples of base colours. Includes dp in bays:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/9707/examples-of-base-colors-for-new-players#Item_16Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
Prices are almost always negotiable.
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@kintara and ObsidianKitsune thank you so much! I’ve been so befuddled about the whole thing. @ObsidianKitsune thanks a million for the links! I’m going to check them out right now :)
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You should really thank Cheers, they did most of the work lol. I'm hopeless with dp bays!Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
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Good question: Any horse can have DP. DP is a proposed darkening gene (well, it's the game's version) that livers and chocolate palominos need to exist, because with only regular sooty alleles they'll only be dark chestnuts or palominos. With other base coats and genes, the DP doesn't make as stark a difference, so no name came up for those shades in real life. Cherry Drops do get DP with their set of genes because that's hat Ammit decided to do. I think they get two copies of it.
The horses you have there are likely both DPless. :/ The first one definitely doesn't. Wild Bay acts differently from the others (the Bay allele with the + sign afterwards) and gets that dark naturally. It's also dominant over regular Bay and Brown, so any time you have a + in your Agouti alleles (and a dominant E) you'll have a Wild Bay base instead of a Brown or regular Bay.
The second horse is a Brown, which is a less strong version of Agouti and is written as 'At'. They are naturally darker than regular bay as well, and because she has both sooty alleles she is pretty darn dark on her own. I forget how dark a brown gets with DP, but I used to breed them all the time. :P The ones I have now almost always have a fantasy gene covering the base coat color.Thanked by 1ObsidianKitsune -
This link may also help, showing DP on regular bay variations.
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/35673/shades-of-regular-bay#Item_42Thanked by 1ObsidianKitsune















