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should i take off the frame?
  • StarfireAcres
    should I take the frame off this guy because I'm going to be breeding splash horses to him and I don't want any fatal foals image
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  • OndowaStablesOndowaStables
    Do the mares you plan to breed him to have frame? Splash is safe with frame and can lead to gorgeous patterns especially with homozygous frame and/or higher WF.
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  • ObsidianKitsuneObsidianKitsune
    Splash and frame are perfectly fine together! They both however increase WF so you have to watch the kit load. Here are two of my splash frame babies

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  • JordanKJordanK
    Splash and frame do look amazing together!
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  • MoonAcre StablesMoonAcre Stables
    I wouldnt. Just make sure not to breed him to any splash mares who also have frame.
  • AHayesHorsesAHayesHorses
    You can't remove the frame from him because his sire is homozygous for it.
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  • SandycreekFarm
    You should be okay if you make sure the mares you breed him to do NOT have frame, and DO have lesser amounts of White Factor--nothing higher than Medium, I'd say. It's his Kitm and Kitw20 that might cause some concern.
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  • StarfireAcres
    I thought kitm was safe to breed to now
  • StarfireAcres
    and this is the mare I wanted to breed him to image
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  • kassierae
    Frame and splash are fine together, it's only frame x frame that is lethal. Here's a link to the KIT lethality chart and explanation.

    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/13757/new-kit-lethality-and-kit-mutation-load-explained#Item_12
  • StarfireAcres
    ok ill try to breed them later on but their kit genes might have a problem and they have large to extensive white factors..I might get a dead foal
  • SandycreekFarm
    I think there is a slight chance of having problems if the foal is homozygous splash, Kit20Kitto, and has extensive white factor (remember Kit20 enhances the amount of white), but there are a lot of other possibilities that would be less dangerous. If they were my horses, I'd pull eggs and straws and create a number of embryos and see what happens. There's about the same chance of getting a foal that is homozygous Kitm with no splash, which wouldn't be quite what you're looking for either, although the foal would probably survive.
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  • kassierae
    M, w20 and tobiano are in the green, which means always safe. I would encourage you to read the post very thoroughly to help you understand better.
  • StarfireAcres
    Ok I understand it now thank you :)
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