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Abbey Road June 2016
Ammit June 2016
Denalidom July 2016
KerredansCorral June 2016
pinestables June 2016
RoseFlute June 2016

Help me out

Is This Guy Liver?

RoseFlute Jun 30, 2016 7:58 AM

Okay, normally I'm okay at liver detection, but the newish Grey totally throws me off. And naturally, they don't enter in the liver club.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=471379

Here's another dark chestnut grey for comparison. I'm usually thrown off by these guys:
pinestables Jun 30, 2016 8:09 AM

I think they are.

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RoseFlute Jun 30, 2016 8:16 AM

Well, that's what I used to think, but the second shade is way common in greys, now. :P
And if anyone wants a Hz grey Liver draft stud, he's up. I can't use him.
pinestables Jun 30, 2016 8:23 AM

The first one is really dark as a grey chestnut with sooty. You know, I don't focus on grays when breeding horses, so I don't know all the shades, but the first stallion seems liver.

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RoseFlute Jun 30, 2016 8:29 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought. :) Does anyone else breed for greys?
Abbey Road Jun 30, 2016 1:12 PM

I breed greys.

I have a feeling it might be buggy... I had a girl who was very definitely a normal chestnut in her thumbnail (2 year old) and when she refreshed on opening her page her color was very much like this. I thought... LIVER?! but there's no way she can be.
RoseFlute Jun 30, 2016 1:40 PM

Right?? But then, I did create this top chap in a run of around 30, and he's pretty unique in that bunch, so there's still a chance of DP. I guess we'll never know until grey gets changes, or we could try breeding him and see how the foals look. :P
KerredansCorral Jun 30, 2016 1:57 PM

From what I remember a long time ago in a chat about gray, it was said that the gray gene makes the original color of the horse seem darker. Something about the way gray works, it's like pushing out all the color faster, so it causes it to look darker, before it goes gray. It was quite a while ago though, so I could be remembering it wrong.

I took the gentleman home. I usually don't breed for gray, but with drafts I do.
Ammit Jun 30, 2016 2:21 PM

Gray is just band aided in right now. Definitely has some issues.

I don't think this horse is liver.

ETA: I just checked him 100% not a liver.

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RoseFlute Jun 30, 2016 3:15 PM

@Corral that's what I've read, too, and that's why it's so hard to tell. Thanks for buying him! Do you want me to reimburse you a little? :/

@Ammit Wow, thanks for checking! :) I really thought he might have been.

Does anyone have a grey they know for certain is a liver? :)
KerredansCorral Jun 30, 2016 3:22 PM

No, I'm good. :)
Abbey Road Jun 30, 2016 5:14 PM

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=368915

I do. She is liver red roan underneath. I'll see if I can find that chestnut.
RoseFlute Jun 30, 2016 6:23 PM

Great. :)
Oh, that's odd, he looks a lot darker than she does. :P
Ammit Jun 30, 2016 6:54 PM

More pigment means they go dark faster and then lighter faster. I doubt you will be able to tell on random creates.

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Denalidom Jul 4, 2016 11:02 PM

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=459434

This boy is liver, by a Freaky Friday stud. Looks a fair bit darker and more reddish than yours

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