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  • I have a future gmt project in mind for a foundation Hom DP liver stallion with roan (but no splash) like the examples below. I wanted to see what people think of the the flaxen color combo (knowing it can get really orangey). I am decided on het Kit M and Hom satin for him, but can't decide if I should also add w3 or w10 also and wanted to get thoughts on that as well.

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    $54A ElectrifiedDarkside
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And DP with Sooty Plus in Silver Black, Blue, Sable & Buckskin
    Focusing on the tallest riding horses
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    Mr Cherrio RS HomSNF i1i6


    Cheerio is a Flaxen Liver Roan. The Cream and Ice dilute him and I don't have Splashes or Kit M on him but hope he gives you some ideas! :D
  • Thanks @Looper! I actually am toying with the idea of cream too...can't decide lol
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And DP with Sooty Plus in Silver Black, Blue, Sable & Buckskin
    Focusing on the tallest riding horses
  • Just be careful with w10, I’ve lost a couple foals from crossing brother with sisters and they got hom w10. I think kitm and roan is beautiful, but I’m very biased and love roan. Satin would look lovely on him. I would think on the flaxen, maybe go ahead and make the stud flaxen. It still requires homozygous recessive to show, so no guarantee that all the foals/grand goals will show it for those who aren’t as keen on the flaxen look.
  • Your future horse sounds gorgeous whatever you decide. I personally like black livers both with and without flaxen, and if you get a flaxen that is too orangey for your tastes you can always re-roll the image until you get one you like better, it only costs 100hbs.
    You can only have 2 kit genes on each horse though, so if you put roan and kitM on him there is no room for w3 or w10. All 3 of those white spotting genes carry some risk of lethal crosses, with kitM being the safest. Here is the link to the kit lethality chart: https://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/13757/new-kit-lethality-and-kit-mutation-load-explained#Item_27

    I found a kitM hom DP liver red roan in my herd:
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    Here is one with w3:
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    Here is a w10 het DP liver red roan (I don't appear to have any hom DP w10):image
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    Breeding high quality Sheldasen horses. Liver chestnut, DP mushroom, and rose gray riding horses. Dun cobs with all the patterns. Watercolor, Wrong Warp and ice on mixed body types.
    Stable ID 88
  • Thanks for the input everyone!
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And DP with Sooty Plus in Silver Black, Blue, Sable & Buckskin
    Focusing on the tallest riding horses

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